I ka ʻike ʻana i ka hoʻolālā, manaʻo wau e kuhikuhi ʻia ana kēia i kahi Tagada waiu. ʻaʻole nō. Ua hoʻomanaʻo mai nā iwi ʻulaʻula iaʻu i kahi ʻano lole hiki ke kūʻai ʻia i ʻōwili ʻia a i ʻole i loko o nā ʻeke (Alpenliebe, Campino, Debron etc…). A pēlā nō. (E ʻike i ka loiloi piha….)